I see all that You experienced and understand Your position an feelings very well. E.G. I’d have been the first person to help collecting & saving all the stuff from torn down treehouses…
You mostly described both sides quite well. The “ones” and the “others” had quite different views of how and what to do in the forest. And there were all kinds of “in betweens”.
The question I have is: Would You have liked all people, that couldn’t “dive deeply into forst-life” to stay away? From summer to autumn would You rather have stayed only with those deeper involved?
Being exclusive in a way and shutting out those, who cannot involve in the same
This is a difficult but important question in my opinion.

Around me there are different ideas of what would be best. And there is the idea of a buddy-system for newly arrived people in order to allow a quick introduction and make them familiar with developed ways and thoughts or agreements of people in the occupation. It could make it easier to be “really involved” for “short-stayers”.

I think we all ought to be respectful to ourselves an keep in mind that each one is moving on it’s individual path. And that all ways start with the first step. And some of all these young people just started activism in and around Danni. Some already longer “grown-ups” as well…

Example: A person just left home with parents shortly, started studies or anything perhaps, and seeing the necessity comes to take action as a climate activist.
Isn’t that a great thing? This decision to get up and start acting instead of just watching (or looking away)?

It is very obvious that in the beginning people have not yet considered everything that could be considered or changed.
That takes time. (Now there is time.) And it goes on and on. And doesn’t end, I think.

@mike
it’s not about being better anarchist. It’s about how we wanna live and bigotry we sometimes find in ourselves (but often don’t wanna look at, so we react out of cognitive dissonance). And feedback, sharing your experience and critique ist valuable and legitimate.
Just to assume Schwanzvergleich may is a cheap trick to fire back, even if there might be truth behind it too.

What if there is something to the idea that an initiative of this kind becomes with firm but ambiguous principles, which over time become distorted by the accumulating influx of outside, transient demonstrators, who have not had time to adjust to this newfound way of live, and have not had the experience of weathering through them in heavier seasons.

This image of a stubborn, superior-minded anarchist, unwavering in loft egoism, might be an easy construct to refute, but there is evidently something more going on here. In the outline, as presented, it is clear that this particular manifestation of resistance is under incessant encroachment from the forces which it seeks to defy and constrain. Surely the “fuck this and that” is all a bit gratuitous, but by the same token it ought not to be such a challenge to sympathise with someone who spent a year watching something already quite fragile drift further and further towards wanton consumerism.

Have you considered that this might not be directed towards you specifically? Perhaps there are instances in the description which hit home, and remind you of a carelessness on your own part. Whether or not you feel that being attacked on these grounds is ultimately justifiable, there might still be something to learn from how you, or people you know, may be coming off in this particular presentation.

Switching out wet sleeping bags for new ones – I witnessed this myself. But a superabundance always has at least two misleading effects. One is to convince the participants that there is more about than anything useful can be done with. The next is that people very quickly begin to use the store available as a kind of walk-in communal wardrobe, in which wet or dirty clothes, in terrible conditions, can be easily substituted for clothes which have been recently washed and dried, and left out neatly for anyone in even marginal need. An additional one might be that the impression is given that there is a sort of supernal mother figure always in the background, though never physically present, always available to replace what is sullied with something clean.

I think it is always worth remembering that in this particular time, there is a collision going on, and one for which many of us may not feel comfortable admitting is taking – namely, between many of these late-stage bourgeois comforts and a new strain of entitled anarchism, which have never experienced enormous bouts of turmoil firsthand, and expects that principles alone, or the appearance of principles, will be sufficient for the whole enterprise.

There is something dubiously ahistorical about this, and I often consider the chasm between the repression of anarchists historically, whether it being the torture and imprisonment of religious liberationist outfits in medieval Europe, or the systematic silencing and extermination of intellectuals and activists in the last century. In comparison to what we have now (and it must be admitted, the campsite was a veritable Weihnachtsmarkt on the day question) and what our predecessors had to contend with, famine, persecution, interment, defamation, insanity, perhaps we actually ought to be as careful as we can in our efforts to prevent the gentrification of these demonstrations, and to protect ourselves from being passively neutralised.

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Quick thought for the poster: you worked hard, you developed many valuable skills, and you manage to remain clear-headed enough to make valuable observations as to how such an action can become corrupted and complacent. You deserve a lot of credit for that. But keep in mind that one year there, or even ten years, twenty, however many it takes, will not put you so far ahead of everyone else on the positive end of the spectrum.

If this was all as simple as you reaching conclusions, and those conclusions being then extracted and lain down as the universal benchmarks, then we would have already accomplished whatever was needed to have been accomplished some millennia ago, and the problems we face would never really threaten us.

I am not religious, but I find the following metaphor might help to explain what I mean. Imagine a child being taken into a Buddhist monastery. The only way for an individual to attain to the highest proposed level of wisdom and escape from the long coils of mortal suffering is to spend an entire lifetime contemplating the cyclical and epicyclical varieties of life and death in the wider world, while still retaining something of a non-commutative distance. The implication is that the birds, the worms, the beetles, the peasants, the monarchs, the washerwomen, and everyone else upon the surface of the earth has missed their opportunity to take part in this particular system of abnegatory rituals, and discovered the proper way to what they refer to as enlightenment.

I happen not to believe in total enlightenment, and doubt that it would ever be possible in a monastery. But as to achieving some sense of wisdom and closure in regards the agonies and circumspections we all face, there are those who for whatever reason have found themselves in a position of greater advancement, and those who have yet to even decipher the path they must take to achieve something similar.

I recommend not looking back on all those who have not made it as far along the way as you have, and condemning both them and the action itself as an irredeemable failure, only worthy of your scorn. What are were trying to discover the roots of all of this, our world, our challenges, our solutions, if not for the possibility that there may be a better way for people to learn and to communicate this learning with one another? Are we otherwise only doing it for ourselves? Why bother? What are either one of us worth, in the long haul? For the other species on the planet? Perhaps ife will re-emerge, transform, and undertake its bewildering race towards diversity once again. Who is to say that any manner of mass extinction, even once as outlandish and unfortunate as the one we are currently causing, will have any effect over time besides the jumbling up once again of the conditions for life, and one more epochal generation of organisms?

Evidently it is for each other that we strive. So why be so quick to write off the majority completely?

Learn first. The learn to teach. And always teach to learn as well. The lessons cannot hold forever. They need to be passed on. It is the only way that anything will ever change.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGu__oqMcKM

PS: Fuck you too.